I spent a day on pro Brexit Facebook pages. This is what I discovered

In the interests of balance, I’ve just spent a day reading through a bunch of pro-Brexit Facebook pages. I understand that everyone has the same right to an opinion, even if I don’t agree with them and honestly thought I may learn something which would give me a different point of view. Which it did.

My findings:

Apparently, I’m a remoaner
I’m also a snowflake
I believe in unicorns
I’m stupid and uneducated
I need to wake up

Posts:

Out means out.
Brexit means Brexit.
Get on with it.
No deal is the best possible outcome.
All counter-arguments are Project Fear and therefore null and void.
How bad Mrs May is.
How good most other Tories are.
How dangerous Labour is.
Death is preferable to PM Corbyn.
Lots of pro-Johnson posts.
Lots of pro Trump posts.
Lots of pro-Farage posts.
Lots of pro-UKIP posts.
Lots and lots of Mogg for PM posts including petitions (because he’s just like us).
How great the empire was when we controlled most of the brown people and how better off they were for it.
How evil the EU is.
How the EU plots against us.
A few Tommy Robinson reposts.
Huge amount of anti-Muslim posts.

What all groups had in common

They all had an almost complete lack of positive facts from people who are experts in their respective subjects and trades. All groups had multiple reposts from the right-wing press, which are the only true facts.

This leads me to the conclusion that for the majority, this is nothing to do with Brexit and never was. This was about giving a voice to that which had mostly been driven underground. Trump offered the same in the US. Make no mistake about this, it was a mostly racist vote. This is why presenting facts to leavers makes no difference. You think you’re discussing Brexit with them, but they’re not. You are simply wasting your time. This also explains perfectly why Leavers are not angry about being lied to and basically getting scammed. It still gave exactly what they wanted. Same reason Trump can do no wrong, no matter what he does.

I believe that the future evolution of the human race rests in cooperation and peace with countries working together. Not xenophobia, division and an every-man-for-himself attitude. I thought we’d mostly moved on from this. I can’t think of a single example in history where division has improved a situation. Not one.

However, after a day on their pages, it seems that Brexit is simply an excuse to drive us in this direction, which makes me even more determined to fight it.

26 replies

  1. It’s interesting when they throw an insult at you and you respond with similar. They blame you for starting to abuse them !
    Madness personified.

  2. The new one is “Project Smear” in which poor innocent Boris has his career destroyed by everyone. Apparently actual quotes from Boris doesn’t counts as evidence of things Boris has said or written now.

  3. I’m disappointed there’s no WWII reference in that bingo card. That’s another one the Brextremists love to cling to.

    ‘My grandad didn’t need a passport to enter France in 1944.’

    ‘French rifle for sale. Dropped once, never used.’

    ‘We saved their arses twice. They’d all be speaking German if it wasn’t for us. We owe them nothing.’

    And other, hilarious side splitters.

    • t inevitably comes back to the war. It’s like that conflict was the only thing they ever paid attention to in history class.

      • Now how would you know what The US is actually taught about history in 2018 everything ya?. Is it exactly the same as it was in say 1945? 1880? How do you know 4 sure what they teach about history in the UK is true. Iran, do they tell a different history St. John VI? Dont be so quick to trust your goverment?

  4. I have encountered this stuff myself, in the real world. It does not, therefore, surprise me and I agree with the article.

    It is not about the reality of of actually leaving the EU for the enthusiastic leavers.

      • Every time you speak to somebody who is a Brexit here you just get platitudes and statements there is no facts whatsoever behind their opinion that like sheep being led by the pro Brexit press

  5. You’re correct, nothing that the likes of Boris, Farage or JRM does makes on iota of difference. They have won and are waiting for Brexit to be delivered.

  6. Actually it is worth arguing with them.
    A lot of them don’t realise that none of the immigration they hate has anything to do with the EU.
    They also widely believe that our missing €10bn is not only a problem for the EU budget (which it is, a bit) but they extrapolate this to thinking that it will cause the €15,000bn economy!
    With patience, you cam get these points across before getting kicked out of the group

    • Good for you Marshie for having the patience to get in there and engage! Kudos for getting some constructive points across as well. Applause!

  7. This isn’t surprising, however you have to remember that people who post most on Brexit groups are the most vocal ones with the strongest opinions (same with most political groups). A lot of people voted Brexit almost passively and without thinking that much about it, in some ways that’s worse but it’s not useful to lump all of them in as racists and xenophobes.

  8. Let me first say, I voted against Brexit.

    Sadly, the ‘Remain’ politicians were telling just as many ‘untruths’ as the Brexit idiots perpetuating the usual old crap: thus the ‘Remain’ politicians abandoned any moral ‘high ground’ that could have helped produce a sensible result. Any of you recall Hans Christian Andersens’ “The Emperor’s New Clothes”?

    Apathy resulted because many potential voters felt it had nowt to do with them. The arguments for and against did nothing to engage or motivate them. Many are now realising what they’ve lost. They’re kicking themselves now.

    Nobody on any side had a clue or a plan for Brexit becoming a reality. Don’t believe any of the bulls hit. That’s why they’re continuing to flounder and bluster and lie.

    I voted against disunity. I think the sovereignty argument is entirely hollow.
    I have ancestors who fought in both world wars and we lost more than seven in WW1 alone. Those who survived were wounded in body and mind. Several found themselves fighting again in ww2. The only real winners were politicians and arms manufacturers. Everybody else, no matter which side, lost.

    I have no confidence in any of our politicians to do anything other than bungle through and come up with deals that only benefit “the few” at the expense of “the many”.
    Corbyn, Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Bone, Raab and the rest? They are in it for themselves. I can’t name even one current politician that I’d trust to do the right thing.
    We’re in the shit and have nobody to blame but ourselves. Remember, we voted for those idiots.

  9. Hitler was in favour of extreme nationalism.
    Winston Churchill said he favoured “a sort of united states of Europe”, as the way of ending continuing hate across Europe.
    I favour Churchill and reject Hitler and am therefore totally in favour of the UK belonging to the EU.
    Some people seem to think the opposite – that Churchill was a fascist who would have favoured a separated nationalistic Europe, and antagonism beween Britain and other European Nations.

  10. I am constantly reminded of the Adam Curtis documentary on Churchill and Thatcher. Their invocation of right wing myths that were expedient, but slipped beyond their control leading to their downfall and wider damage to the country.
    This is what has happened and even if we somehow manage to stay in the EU, the country is split on the issue. We now have a large scale fascist bloc in this country and they aren’t going to go away anytime soon. Especially if they scent a hint of compromise on this complex issue.

  11. I am sure your findings are so. It’s astonishing how stick in platitudes most brexiters are….. I do hope we get out of the mess, we are regressing horribly otherwise!…….

  12. I followed some of these pro Brexit sites but all the racism (they really hate Diane Abbott and Sadiq Khan) plus the Islamophobic rants were depressing. Interestingly, many were very pro Russia and I’m convinced Russian trolls were posting and in some cases acting as admins of the pages. Huge outrage about Muslims supposedly wanting to ban Christmas but nothing about the Skripal poisonings. I left these groups eventually…..obviously I’m a snowflake.

    • They really are nauseating, and that’s what they say in public. It’s like hate week on those message boards. They whip one another up and just vent. I’ve watched them become steadily more overtly racist. From my months of seeing their stuff on my feed I think the Russian thing is probably correct. I also think that anybody expecting to pursue a rational narrative with them is wasting their time, it’s pure emotion that’s driving Brexit. It’s all about rage, disappointment, fear. And now it’s got going it’s going to be very difficult to stop.

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